Arthur C. Brooks and Oprah Winfrey.Photo:Candice Gayl

Candice Gayl
When Arthur C. Brooks, a professor who studies happiness, heard thatOprah Winfreywas trying to reach him, he says his first response was, “Yeah, and I’m Batman.“But it turned out to be true: Winfrey had become a fan of Brooks' column inThe Atlantic, and then she read his 2022 book,From Strength to Strength: Finding Success, Happiness, and Deep Purpose in the Second Half of Life. Now, she hoped the two of them could collaborate.
The pair’s first joint venture was when Brooks appeared on Winfrey’sSuper Soulpodcastin April 2022. But they weren’t done yet.
After finally meeting in person, Brooks says they realized they needed to write a book together.“We understood each other in terms of values and what we’re trying to do, and she’s awesome as a person,” he tells PEOPLE in this week’s issue. “She’s interesting and she’s super smart. And so then we started cooking up this thing, this idea of the book.”

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That book,Build the Life You Want: The Art and Science of Getting Happier, comes out on Sept. 12.
As for his own work, Brooks cites the influence of philosophers: “The philosophers are the ones who ask the interesting questions, the theologians, everybody from the Buddha to Schopenhauer. Those are the ones asking the interesting questions about life and happiness.”
Then, he says, he thinks about the work of neuroscientists: “Okay, if we’re going to understand this, if we’re talking about these happiness questions, then how is it going to actually work? You go to neuroscience for the mechanism of action. When the brain is processing these types of questions, what’s actually happening?”
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Finally, he turns to psychology and the other social sciences to find evidence that people are happier when they follow the kind of guidance he and Oprah lay out in the book.
In the end, Brooks says, “It’s a lot of ancient teachings, a lot of common sense, a lot of what grandma would say.”
Arthur C. Brooks.Rahil Ahad/Legatum Institute

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When asked if there’s any one thing that anyone can do to become happier, he boils it down to a simple answer: love.
“Love more. Don’t push love away. That’s it. Don’t wait for love. Go love. Go love more. Go say, I love you. Go act like I love you. If you’re religious, say it to God too. And then when love comes your way, don’t push it away. Happiness is love. Full stop,” he says. “You can see why Oprah and I understand each other!”
After working together on the book, Brooks says, he’s come to see Winfrey as a friend but also something else. “I want to be more Oprah, quite frankly,” he says. “She, for me has been an extremely positive role model.”
When he’s facing a difficult situation, he says, it makes senses to “offer things up in prayer and then you say to yourself, ‘Well, what Oprah do: WWOD?'”
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Build the Life You Want: The Art and Science of Getting Happieris available everywhere books are sold on Tuesday, Sept. 12.
source: people.com